from within / from without (2024)

lehoang

Member

Vietnam Vietnamese

Please tell me the exact meaning of "from within" and "from without" in the following. Do "from inside" and "from outside" mean the same?

1. Then she reached the gates and the car door opened from within.
2. The door suddenly opened from without, almost throwing me to the ground.
3. As I arose to depart the door suddenly opened from without.

  • Cagey

    post mod (English Only / Latin)

    English - US

    From within means that the was opened by someone or something on the inside.
    From without means that the door was opened by someone or something on the outside.

    lehoang

    Member

    Vietnam Vietnamese

    Thank you all for the answers. But, redgiant, does WR dictionary also list "from insise/outside" as archaic? Do they mean the same?

    pwmeek

    Senior Member

    English - American

    As an AE speaker I would use from within in this context (also to mean from within oneself) but from without does seem antiquated.

    JulianStuart

    Senior Member

    English (UK then US)

    Thanks for your answer, pwmeek. Do you mean "from outside" would be more common than "from without" in AE?

    Not just AE - using without to mean outside is archaic in general.
    The most likely place people have seen the word is in a popular hymn which has a line
    "there is a green hill ... without a city wall" - this means the specific hill is outside a city wall.
    it may have become arrchaic because of the confusion with the current meaning of "lacking".

    bolldamm

    New Member

    English

    The most likely place people have seen the word is in a popular hymn which has a line
    "there is a green hill ... without a city wall" - this means the specific hill is outside a city wall.

    Another place they might have seen it is in the lyrics to Bob Dylan's "Mighty Quinn":

    Oh come all without, come all within
    You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn

    ounbbl

    New Member

    Korean

    As an AE speaker I would use from within in this context (also to mean from within oneself) but from without does seem antiquated.

    Yes, the phrase 'from without' is antiquated - simply means people usually do not use it for the sense. However, the expression 'from within or (from) without' is a good acceptable (contemporary) English - with no confusion as to what it means. I like rhythm of the phrase.

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